9/11 Conspiracy

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Welcome to “9/11 Conspiracy” group. Here you can dicuss, research, debate, and ask questions about 9/11. I am your moderator Matty.
If you need to contact me for any reason please message me.

We do have some rules on this group:
Rule 1-NO SPAM

Rule 2-Please no name-calling, harassing, making fun, or verbally abusing fellow members. Not all of us will agree with each other.

Rule 3-Debunkers, please don't post a topic saying, "What assholes" and proceed in using every curse word possibe to put truthers in the ground, the post will be deleted. I will allow cursing, but in moderation.

Rule 4-Any post saying Popular Mechanics debunked all of this will be deleted ( Read DRG's Debunking 9/11 Debunking ) along with all posts saying there is no conspiracy because 1)too many people 2)you should all be dead. They have been discussed too much.

Rule 5-Any topic is allowed to talk about. From NPT to CD at the WTC, any theory is allowed.

Thank you,

-Matty (YFT)



LOOSE CHANGE:FINAL CUT (OFFICIAL RELEASE)



www.loosechangethefinalcut.com
www.loosechange911.com

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Theres a bunch of new stuff, give me some time and I'll have many new things on here. Thanks, and please contine to post.

-Matty (YFT)

www.loosechange911.com
www.ronpaul2008.com
www.youthfor911truth.co.nr
www.prisonplanet.com
How we doin everyone, I know it's been slow on here. Come on, post on here, post anything. Invite your friends, invite the debunkers, invite everyone! Anyway, Alex Jone's new film Endgam3 will be out in 16 days, check out www.prisonplanet.com for info on that. And Loose Change:Final Cut will be out November 11, check out www.loosechange911.com for that. And remember, if you under 21 check out www.youthfor911truth.co.nr. Thanks, and POST!

Posted 1/10

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Sorry, I haven't had a lot of time to edit and do stuff on here, my fault.
Read my review and check out my pics on 9/10-
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15467&hl=

Thanks,
-Matty (YFT)

Posted 9/14
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What are YOU waiting for?

http://wearechange.org/promo/large.html

Excellant promo vid for 9/11 2007 by www.wearechange.org

Check it out.

Posted 8/23
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If anyone is good at HTML please message me, I'm having a lot of problems, thanks.

-Matty
(YFT)

Posted 8/23
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Well, the History Channel Hit piece was pitiful. View it here-

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2...609900104&hl=en

So many mistakes, so many things left out. Small write-up about it, taken from Dylan Avery's signature at the loose change forums ( www.loosechangeforums.com )


EVERYTHING I NEEDED TO KNOW ABOUT 9/11 I LEARNED FROM THE HISTORY CHANNEL.

1. WTC7 was on fire at 9:30 AM
2. Cell phones work at 50,000 feet
3. Jersey Girls who?
4. Jet fuel creates Hadoken Fireballs that smash through reinforced concrete
5. http://jewsdid911.ytmnd.com/ is a 9/11 truth site
6. WTC7 was a giant amphitheater
7. Bob Macilvaine who?
8. Popular Mechanics > Physicists
9. What Wargames?
10. Flight 77 hit the Pentagon at a 90 degree angle

It was terrible.

Posted 8/22.
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9/11 2007!

www.wearechange.org/91107

There are things in nearly every major city, please message me with your city and I'll give you a list of things going on.

Thanks,

-Matty (YFT

Posted 8/19

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There will be a hit piece on the History Channel named, "911 Conspiracies:Fact or Fiction" It'll be on Monday night from 9 to 11 PM.You can find more info here

http://www.history.com/schedule.do?action=daily&date=20070820&time=2000&timeZ..EST&x=21&y=5

and

http://www.history.com/shows.do?action=detail&episodeId=240087

Examines the various conspiracy theories espoused on the Internet, in articles and in public forums that attempt to explain the 9/11 attacks. It includes theories that the World Trade Center was brought down by a controlled demolition; that a missile, not a commercial airliner, hit the Pentagon; and that members of the U.S. government orchestrated the attacks in hopes of creating a war in the Middle East. Each conspiracy argument is countered by a variety of experts in the fields of engineering, intelligence and the military. The program also delves into the anatomy of such conspiracies and how they grow on the Internet.


Check out the commercial-

http://www.loosechange911.com/download/history_channel_commercial.mov

POSTED 8/18



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9/11 Truth Films




Loose Change: Second Edition Recut-


9/11 Mysteries-


TerrorStorm-


The PentaCon


Martial Law 9/11-


The Ulitmate Con(spiracy)


WKJO: Who Killed John O’Neil-


America: Freedom to Fascism-


Reichstag 911







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Oil, Smoke, and Mirrors-







9/11 Eye-Witnesses-


David Ray Griffin - 911 and the American Empire-



























9/11 The Road to Tyranny













































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The Great Conspiracy-


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9/11 Revisited-







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What is the 9/11 Truth Movement?




Ever since the moment of the first impact at the World Trade Center, a struggle has raged between two broad, competing ideas of what really happened on September 11th, 2001.

The US administration delivered an almost immediate verdict, which can be described as follows: Dispatched by Osama Bin Ladin's network and motivated by hatred and religious fanaticism, 19 suicide bombers hijacked four planes, crashed three of them into their targets, and caused the collapse of the Twin Towers as a consequence of the resulting damage and fires. The 19 men did not necessarily require any accomplices within the United States; and no one in the US government could have possibly anticipated or prevented the attacks.

Even as the administration exploited this Official Story (or "Official Conspiracy Theory") as the pretext to launch new wars long in the making, independent researchers began to accumulate a vast body of evidence suggesting a different narrative for 9/11: that of the Inside Job.

The 9/11 events and the anomalies in the official story raised Unanswered Questions about:
- the unprecedented failure of the US air defense system on the morning of the attacks;
- the AWOL military chain of command during the actual attacks, including the inexplicable behavior of the presidential entourage;
- the seeming impossibility of official claims with regard to Flight 77;
- the evidence that Flight 93 was shot down;
- contradictions and dubious evidence in the official claims about the alleged hijackers and masterminds, and doubts about their real identities;
- signs that the alleged hijackers enjoyed high-level protection against discovery by honest investigators;
- evidence that the alleged hijackers were financed by states allied with US intelligence;
- suspicious and massive international financial trades suggesting foreknowledge of the attacks;
- widespread signs of official foreknowledge and, in fact, advance preparation for the 9/11 attack scenario;
- the long-running links between Islamist fundamentalist terror cells and US covert operations, dating back to CIA support for the anti-Soviet mujahedeen and Osama Bin Ladin himself;
- the demolition-like collapse of the Twin Towers and of a third skyscraper, WTC 7;
- and questions concerning who could have logically expected to derive benefit in the aftermath of a massive attack on the United States.

The suspicions received further confirmation a few weeks after September 11th, with the arrival of anthrax letters targeted only at opposition politicians and media figures, and timed to coincide with the introduction of the USA PATRIOT Act.

Already within those first weeks, loose networks of researchers and investigators formed via the Internet to generally become known as the "9/11 skeptics." They presented substantial bodies of evidence to show that elements within the US government must have been involved in facilitating or orchestrating the attacks - in other words, that 9/11 was possibly a classic case of "false-flag" or synthetic terrorism, such as corrupt states have often perpetrated on their own citizens.

What motive would people in the US government or establishment have to commit crimes of this magnitude? The outrage caused by September 11th allowed the present administration to instantly implement policies its members have long supported, but which were otherwise infeasible. 9/11 was exploited to launch an open-ended, perpetual "war on terror," actually a war against any and all enemies the US government may designate. The case of Iraq shows that the target countries of this war need have nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11.

The invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan were both planned and prepared in advance of September 11th, with the apparent motive of gaining geostrategic advantage and seizing vital resources. The architects of the Iraq invasion within the Bush administration had earlier been members of the Project for a New American Century. In the PNAC manifesto of September 2000 ("Rebuilding America's Defenses"), they admitted that the American people would be unwilling to pay the stiff price for US global hegemony, full-spectrum military dominance, and the imposition of a new order in the Middle East - unwilling, that is, in the absence of a catalyzing event, an epochal lesson such as a "new Pearl Harbor."

9/11 put the nation on a permanent war footing, allowed the extension of secrecy doctrines, and temporarily deified the President. The unprecedented public fear was stoked and exploited to allow a roll-back of domestic rights and liberties, as had long been advocated by key members of the Bush administration (and their allies in both major parties). 9/11 allowed the designation of "enemy combatants" in violation of international law; preventive detention and the open use of torture; the activation of long-standing "shadow government" plans; the passage of measures officially undermining constitutional government; and a wholesale re-definition of US geopolitics and American society itself.

Perhaps most important of all to potential conspirators, trillions of dollars in spending priorities were predictably shifted from "butter" to "guns" in the years after September 11th, unleashing a new wave of growth and profiteering in the war and security industries. 9/11 became a pretext for economic crisis management and transformation under the cover of war and counterterror.

From the beginning, those who doubted the official story saw the potential for achieving a different kind of global transformation. By exposing the great fraud to the public, the 9/11 dissidents hoped to reverse the policies adopted after September 11th; to end the wars; to reveal a long and sordid history of covert operations, black budgets and hidden economics; to wake up the American people to the reality of the globalist drive to corporate feudalism, which is destroying the natural environment and the lives of the planetary majority; and to motivate the people to act against this sea of troubles.

The first two years after September 11th saw the rise of the Families' Movement , which kept the issue of the "unanswered questions" alive, and which forced the creation of the official 9/11 Commission. The Bush administration acted to delay, stonewall and starve all official investigations - with the complicity of the mainstream media, who ignored the festering questions or at best ridiculed those who asked them.

Many signs confirmed that there was indeed a 9/11 Cover-up: outrageous conflicts of interest within official investigating bodies, such as the appointment of Henry Kissinger and then Philip Zelikow to the 9/11 Commission; destruction of evidence; the silencing of whistleblowers; and the promotion of the very officials who were responsible for the supposed failures of September 11th. For many, the 9/11 cover-up itself became the smoking gun pointing to wrongdoing: the untenable excuses of massive serial incompetence; the endless coincidences; the insulting fairy tale that "no one could have imagined planes as weapons"; the omission and suppression of any evidence contradicting the official story.

The 9/11 truth movement evolved alongside the families' movement. By the time of the second anniversary, in September 2003, the 9/11 skeptics network was able to draw thousands of participants to research conferences in New York City, Berlin, London, Toronto, the Bay Area, Durham NH, and other cities. March 2004 saw the "Citizens' Inquiry into 9-11: Phase One" at the historic Herbst Theater in San Francisco (where the UN Charter was signed). Researchers and dissidents from many cities and countries flocked to the movement's first great summit, achieving the first breakthroughs in the US mainstream media. The 9/11 truth movement entered American politics as a growing presence.

Taken from: http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=groups.groupProfile&groupid=103135933&Mytoken=76F4F9E9-8A09-4ED1-86DFA3371385642926096692





9/11 Truth Organizations-

Louder Than Words ( www.loosechange911.com )
We Are Change (www.wearechange.org )
Lone Lantern (http://www.lonelantern.org/)
Student Scholars for 9/11 Truth (http://www.sst911.org /)
Youth for 9/11 Truth (http://youthfor911truth.zoomcities.ws/ )
Pilots for 9/11 Truth (www.pilotsfor911truth.org )
Scholars for 9/11 Truth (http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/ )
A/E 9/11 Truth (www.ae911truth.org )
CIT ( www.thepentacon.com )
Jersey City 9/11 Truth (www.myspace.com/jc911truth )
Pennsylvania for 9/11 Truth ( http://www.myspace.com/911truthproject)
Boston 9/11 Truth (http://www.myspace.com/nineeleventruthboston )
The Resistance (www.Markdice.com )
Hip-Hop for 9/11 Truth (http://www.myspace.com/hiphopfor911truth )
9/11 Truth Tucson (http://www.911truth-tucson.org )
Detroit 9/11 Truth (http://www.myspace.com/911truthdetroit )
The Jersey Girls (http://www.myspace.com/911pressfortruth )
Vermont 9/11 Truth (http://www.myspace.com/vt911truth )
Veterns for 9/11 Truth ( www.vt911t.org )
9/11 Truth Albany (http://www.myspace.com/911truthalbany)

If you have/know of an organization I left out please message me so I can add it to the list.

Thank you,

-Matty (YFT)






Radio Stations We Love

1) GCN (www.gcnlive.com)
Home of Alex Jones, Jack Blood, Louder Than Words Radio, The Dynamic Duo, Jeff Rense, Ron Paul radio, and What Really Happened Radio


3) We the People Radio Network (http://www.wtprn.com/ )
Home of Gary Franchi, D.L., Webster Tarpley, Kevin Barrett, Cosmos, and PNAC radio

4) Revere Radio (www.revereradio.net/)
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