A place to discuss the Second Amendment and self defense. Most of us are Libertarians in America. You dont have to be a libertarian/Libertarian to be in this group. We take a common sense approach to gun rights. We believe the Second Amendment is about defending our freedoms and lives. Gun owners come in many different flavors. Hunters, plinkers, LEOs, Military, militants, ect. Everyone is welcome here regardless of race or sex. Please no insulting and be wise about what is said here. I do not recommend this group for legal advice either but we will do our best to answer questions.
"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."
Thomas Jefferson
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
Thomas Jefferson
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13. states independent 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. What country before ever existed a century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it’s natural manure."
Thomas Jefferson letter to William S. Smith Paris, Nov. 13, 1787
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property... Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them."
Thomas Paine
I welcome anyone regardless of race, sex, or creed! Dissidents, current/former military personnel, LEOs (the sworn in non-JBT kind), non racist neo-feds, and will tolerate anti-gun people.
ATF Abuses read on... They want to close ALL legal FFL gun dealers.
Political compass test What political realm are you ideas in?
CA Gun Lawyers (and national)
Wanna Bear arms?
http://opencarry.org/
http://packing.org/
Gun Rights supporters:
List of Gun related groups
Libertarian Groups here on myspace:
NRA, Libertarians, 2nd Amendment
Libertarian Vets
Libertarian myspace group
Libertarian Activism
Californian Libertarians
My other Groups:
Californian Gun Owners (sister group to this one)
